Philips crazy Ski Slope Cassette Deck

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As unusual cassette decks go - the 1970s Philips changers are some of the oddest.

00:00 Intro
04:18 The ‘Repair’
26:05 First Demo
30:13 Prices \u0026 History
32:38 More Demo
36:39 Wrap Up
38:22 Credits

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EXTRA INFO
It’s very likely one reason the tapes didn’t always locate perfectly in the mechanism is because I was using short custom-wound tapes. As these have less tape inside...they will also have less weight than the average C90. When I ordered them I had no idea the tolerances in the machine would be so fine with regard to tape weight. My intention was to use the short lengths to demonstrate the continuous tape recycling feature activated by the tape end sensor...without having to wait for a full length tape to reach the end. In addition most new cassette shells are a bit rougher and more angular than ones from back in the 1970s - they'd be more smoothed off with rounder edges, and as a result they'd be far less likely to get caught up against the sides of the cassette well.


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Comments

  1. jotape1960
    jotape1960
    2 hours ago

    Hi, Techmoan!!! I don't know if I missed something but... Do you have upload a video about the 4 tracks, 4 audio channels, standard audio compact cassette machines? ???

  2. Luiz Fernando Abdala
    Luiz Fernando Abdala
    2 hours ago

    There is a MP3 player that goes directly on a regular cassette player. All the micro-usb sockets are recessed into the tape themselves and it plays music straight into the cassette magnetic head... get 6 of those with 256GB microsd cards and you got music for quite a while, until the mp3 players run out of batteries.

  3. rootbrian
    rootbrian
    22 hours ago

    Would be an interesting feat to reverse the motor polarity so the tapes would play backwards. xD

  4. alice ravenmaster
    alice ravenmaster
    Day ago

    Hello Where did you get your cassets from Are they old ones or where can I buy them ?

  5. Pooglian
    Pooglian
    Day ago

    This is the mechanical equivalent of legacy spaghetti code: a lot of fiddly parts that work okay on their own that have been very carefully mashed together. When they're all working it's a thing of beauty, but it takes just the slightest bump in the wrong place for it quit working, then good luck figuring which fiddly bit is interfering with which other fiddly bit in the wrong way.

  6. Generic Username
    Generic Username
    Day ago

    Wow, its like a dj, from the olden days!

  7. Neil Sedgley
    Neil Sedgley
    2 days ago

    Rather than create a solution to a problem, this is more like creating a problem and then designing a solution. I don't think I've seen a cassette player more likely to self-destruct if two buttons are pressed at the same time!

  8. John McDermott
    John McDermott
    3 days ago

    This would have been AMAZING if they had an auto reverse feature. That way you could listen to the entire cassette (both sides) before moving on to the next one. Edit: oh, you already said that…. Note to self; watch the entire clip before commenting. 👍🏻

  9. The Tattoo Trunk Show with Scott Hill
    The Tattoo Trunk Show with Scott Hill
    4 days ago

    I found this absolutely fascinating although I have no idea why.

  10. Clive Silk
    Clive Silk
    4 days ago

    you are good at repairing stuff

  11. Clive Silk
    Clive Silk
    4 days ago

    i love replacing belts on old 80's boom boxes but this looks well too complicated.. you can buy a bulk load of belts approximately 50 assorted sizes from amazon .. £4.50 for 50

  12. saarike
    saarike
    4 days ago

    Huh, what a complex mechanism! Thank for sharing.

  13. Goerge Lucas
    Goerge Lucas
    5 days ago

    My father had one , you sent me a great memories of him ( Thankyou) ,dad was right into sound equipment !!

  14. Dubravko Hubak
    Dubravko Hubak
    5 days ago

    i kinda miss the mechanical age of media :/

  15. Leona Devon
    Leona Devon
    6 days ago

    OMG that deck is so comical, got to love the '70's engineering :)

  16. DM DIGITALS
    DM DIGITALS
    6 days ago

    You are boss of vintage goods. lot of love from India .❤️🙏

  17. Rango No Prato
    Rango No Prato
    6 days ago

    Very very good i love cassettes

  18. Stuart Conner
    Stuart Conner
    7 days ago

    LOL. Love your "minimum requirement to play both sides" selections!

  19. Stuart Conner
    Stuart Conner
    7 days ago

    As far as the right only low output, I suspect the control knobs having oxidation in them. I recommend exercising the knobs to see if anything changes you may find that it crackles and jumps in and out as the wipers scrape away some oxidation. If there's progress, using a liquid de-oxidation/contact cleaner could finish the job. Keep in mind re-oxidation happens fast if you don't clean out the slightly corrosive (because that's how they work) cleaner and apply a lube/protectant. These high-end machines of the 70's and early 80's are tanks and often don't need too much electronic repairs, It's the mechanicals that usually need maintenance. Having said that, some 'philes like to re-cap them and replace opamp chips and or transistors in the audio path to make these machines sound even better than when they were new!

  20. Stuart Conner
    Stuart Conner
    7 days ago

    I noticed that counter seemed to move too fast foe a cassette player. You found the reason, It was around the wrong part of the wheel, therefore it was running too fast due to the size of that part of the wheel and falling off because that groove isn't where it is supposed to go. Good, if difficult diagnosis! All repairers are tinkerers. Don't sell yourself short. That was a tricky one.

  21. Stuart Conner
    Stuart Conner
    7 days ago

    Thanks for that "white tack" trick That's useful. I don't know why I've never seen or thought of that before.

  22. PurpleSfinx
    PurpleSfinx
    9 days ago

    Did anyone else think this was for one tape at a time and it had to fire it with great speed to get it to flip over?

  23. evlampii
    evlampii
    9 days ago

    I lived in Stockholm in 70;s and remember this devices from Phillips and DUX in Quelle catalogue of those years. It was of a price about 700 kronos which was a quarter of monthly salary of mid class man. For the same price you could get a good music combo with turntable, cassette recorder, tuner, amp and speakers - even with ultrasound remote!! Hence there were few families who would prefer this construction against a hi-fi combo from a same brand.

  24. Marvin Gershowitz
    Marvin Gershowitz
    9 days ago

    I had a tray 12 cassette automatic changer from 1973. It wasn't a very good sounding machine, but it worked. I ended up using it at the college radio station where I would load up old shows I did and let them play all night after I left the station. I don't remember the brand and never saw anyone with something like after I was through with the deck.

  25. orbsphere
    orbsphere
    9 days ago

    To play both sides purchase 2 of same tape with null cassette (would instantly advance to next tape to play side 2) loaded in between. I believe Philips sold their own tapes which would have been good gimmick to sell more pre-recorded tapes. BTW FWIW I have "Realistic (Radio Shack Cat No 44-223) Cassette Tape Hand Winder" (allows one to manually re-wind cassette faster (10x?) than machine). which is of same dimensions and just held by hand against cassette face to operate. Also have several Maxell Capsule cassette tapes (I think where known as "soft shells" State side which were available in non-conventional lengths, ex. 80 or 110 minutes to better match actual album time length) which have all long edges of cases rounded over claiming gals could carry their tapes in backside of bikini bottoms without having sharp edges digging in.

  26. Thorium Heavy Industries
    Thorium Heavy Industries
    10 days ago

    Nice Heisenberg look. :)

  27. Dana Lehouillier
    Dana Lehouillier
    11 days ago

    That is an incredibly satisfying use of physics. Thank you, Matt. Your perseverance has given us all a gift.

  28. Paul Watkins
    Paul Watkins
    11 days ago

    You say you just tinker I like to do the same I will buy something not working just for the challenge of finding out how it works and making it work again if possible

  29. kurisu7885
    kurisu7885
    11 days ago

    You may just tinker, but watching all you do to get these old machines going again I like to think it helps others who are working on similar projects to get these old machines running again.

  30. T@wesomE
    T@wesomE
    11 days ago

    Also the aesthetics in those older machines is really beautiful,even though they are big as hell & not so impressive as a smarthpone today still holds up as a vintage valued era systems!

  31. T@wesomE
    T@wesomE
    11 days ago

    Its a jukebox cassette player!!! I made thoughts if they ever build something like that back in the day once and here it is thanks to you my friend! Its really impressive to see so complex mechanical systems that do so much for entertainment only.The fact that this wasn't so popular i imagine is because they were malfunctioned easy i believe due to their complexity!

  32. RuviaPawz
    RuviaPawz
    11 days ago

    Facanitnatonf work

  33. gtmx 14
    gtmx 14
    11 days ago

    Amazing video, never heard or seen such a tape mechanism before.. wow!! Thanks again for posting this! Take care 👍

  34. Muhaimi Mohamed
    Muhaimi Mohamed
    12 days ago

    mechanical programming at its best....

  35. paulj0557
    paulj0557
    13 days ago

    I have a C'Qatron or Qatron STEREO-48 . It's a 12 8-track Tape carousel , automatic tape player. DEMO on my channel with awesome long playing multiple tapes, quirks. 8-track heaven! VIDEO- *C' Qatron [SEEK'ATRON] FINDS ELVIS AND OTHERS*

  36. Vedraj r.m
    Vedraj r.m
    15 days ago

    You can record side A and side B in separate tapes and stack them up So that it seems like one continuous tape Or stack two of the same tape but different sides

  37. Googol
    Googol
    15 days ago

    James May porn

  38. Ben Pit
    Ben Pit
    15 days ago

    Imagine this with vinyls 😆

  39. Beefchicken Industries
    Beefchicken Industries
    15 days ago

    Can we take a moment to appreciate the absurdity of a stage name that is “Engleburt Humperdinck”?

  40. chloe devereaux
    chloe devereaux
    16 days ago

    at 27:30 the tapes either side of the one with the brown tape showing have no tape in them..... you can't even see the leader...

  41. Oliver Hale
    Oliver Hale
    17 days ago

    Wow, those schematics! Seeing them really makes me appreciate the genius of the designers.

  42. Bob Mclaughlin
    Bob Mclaughlin
    18 days ago

    Just like working on antique clocks.... You need (and have) infinite patience and a steady hand... You have to wonder... Who comes up with such machines...? Almost as complex as the VHS, vcr's. I really appreciate your videos. I'm a bit of an "eccentric tinkerer" myself.. 😁 You must know that feeling when you mess with something for hours, you power it up and it Works... 👍 And of course, frustration goes along with this as things go "sideways"... 😑

    1. Bob Mclaughlin
      Bob Mclaughlin
      18 days ago

      Just one more thing, was " heath Robinson" on the design team?.. Or, if in N america, it would be Rube Golberg

  43. Jack Egan
    Jack Egan
    18 days ago

    I always enjoy how you acknowledge you're not an "expert" but you still try to fix things and have fun doing it, your humbleness is seriously one of your best qualities Matt.

  44. waylon murphy
    waylon murphy
    19 days ago

    Thats cool

  45. andygozzo72
    andygozzo72
    19 days ago

    the service manual is available from the 'electrotanya' website free, unfortunately its not surprisingly in Dutch ..😉

    1. andygozzo72
      andygozzo72
      19 days ago

      theres 2 electrolytic caps in the auto stop hold/delay circuit, they may be a bit iffy until they get charged for a while to reform them ,

  46. SyFyJoe
    SyFyJoe
    20 days ago

    I've never seen a tape deck like that, thanks for the video. The first auto-reverse deck I saw was a Nakamichi.

  47. Michael Craig
    Michael Craig
    20 days ago

    Fantastic! I repaired hundreds of tape decks in the '70s and '80s, but this is the first time I've seen one of these. Well done!

  48. Alex Stewart
    Alex Stewart
    20 days ago

    But in the end this type of mechanism made for cassettes , red/ yellow included, went into the bin of history...yet fruit salad still sticks around...? By the way does Techmoan know that Carmen Miranda was a fellow European after all? Better own that affiliation, old chap..Lol...

  49. Marek Zubko
    Marek Zubko
    20 days ago

    very good!

  50. Rondo2ooo
    Rondo2ooo
    20 days ago

    Back when over-engineering in home appliances was a USP.

  51. Vincent Groenewold
    Vincent Groenewold
    22 days ago

    So funny, I always just thought that a Phillips screw was from Philips. lol Nice!

  52. David Butler
    David Butler
    22 days ago

    On the subject of replacing belts, the U.S. company TurntableNeedles has a special belt replacement tool. I'm sure it's available elsewhere as well. It is a metal rod with a blunt hook on one end for pulling belts and a blunt notched mechanism on the other end for pushing belts. I've found it really helpful in the past. Again, everything is blunt, so there is no worry about accidentally cutting belts. I recently repaired an Elcaset EL-5 machine which was very cramped inside, so I had alot of difficulty reaching the wheels with my hands. The machine even had a piece of old belt stuck to a wheel that was in a hard-to-reach position. The tool worked great for this job.

  53. Raymond Courtois
    Raymond Courtois
    22 days ago

    Out of curiosity, any chance you found out what they charged for the ski slope attachment? When I saw the thumbnail for this video, at first I assumed it only played one tape at a time and some giant solenoid slingshotted the tape through the ski slope to flip it over..

  54. Raven4K
    Raven4K
    23 days ago

    the players like Kill Me Kill Me!!!!!!!

  55. John Smith
    John Smith
    23 days ago

    nifty

  56. D Deschenes
    D Deschenes
    24 days ago

    it is a lot more, then it is worth. i want it.

  57. Gagandeep Sharma
    Gagandeep Sharma
    24 days ago

    this is called technology

  58. Stanley Cubrik
    Stanley Cubrik
    24 days ago

    Two things. Tapes in the early 70’s were a lot shorter duration than 90mins. Secondly the tapes you are using weigh less than a full length tape and so won’t settle into the machine properly.

  59. Santiago Prieto Millán
    Santiago Prieto Millán
    24 days ago

    en españa no hay estos aparatos

  60. Santiago Prieto Millán
    Santiago Prieto Millán
    24 days ago

    lo que funciona es lo de antes casete y vinilo es genial

  61. FIXTREME
    FIXTREME
    24 days ago

    Man, what a stupid machine 😂but thanks for all your effort

  62. MrTruth111
    MrTruth111
    25 days ago

    omg hahaha this is the best thing ever

  63. Michal
    Michal
    25 days ago

    когда механика дополняет электронику

  64. Clumsy Smurf with SackBoy #1
    Clumsy Smurf with SackBoy #1
    25 days ago

    Woah! 😲

  65. Baloodini
    Baloodini
    25 days ago

    A lot of trouble with these old devices is that the old grease has gummed up and you need to administer a drop of light oil on the axis points sometimes to help make them operate smooth again.

  66. KNY //
    KNY //
    25 days ago

    Now all this is replaced by memory chips this is insane

  67. wdf aseer
    wdf aseer
    25 days ago

    Keep it for another 30 years, it will worth a million.

  68. chubzdon
    chubzdon
    26 days ago

    am i the only on who noticed that the main reason they would get stuck is because of the little notch at the bottom of the tape. when all the tapes are stacked with the notches stacked on top each other it caused one side to be a little bit higher than the other. that corner blocks the tape sliding down the ramp also... why am i watching this

  69. Rob Butterfield
    Rob Butterfield
    26 days ago

    Yes. Mine was Norelco

  70. Rob Butterfield
    Rob Butterfield
    26 days ago

    I had one of those c. 1970_75

  71. Joaco Rodriguez
    Joaco Rodriguez
    26 days ago

    the B sides of the tapes must be put in different tapes!! nice

  72. Gregory Lenox
    Gregory Lenox
    26 days ago

    Hi

  73. ehrichweiss
    ehrichweiss
    26 days ago

    This reminded me to look into a cassette deck I had back in the early/mid 1980s. It was an Onkyo and when you put the cassette in, it would pull it back about halfway into the machine. I know it wasn't just under the Onkyo name but I've yet to see one(in person) since the 1980s when mine finally died. Any chance you know which one I'm talking about? I looked and haven't seen anyone do a video on them as of yet.

  74. Bruce Inraleigh
    Bruce Inraleigh
    26 days ago

    It makes you wonder why they didn't figure out auto reverse sooner. Much simpler.

  75. Bruce Inraleigh
    Bruce Inraleigh
    26 days ago

    Today: Put 300 hours of music on a thumb drive. No flipping tapes. No motors. No mechanisms. Fits in your pocket. Goes anywhere. The "good old days" weren't really so good, eh?

  76. Steven Asselman
    Steven Asselman
    26 days ago

    36:30 A sollution for this would be like this. Say we have Album A, B & C, side A & B of both. Instead of tape 1: AA & AB, 2: BA & BB, 3: CA & CB, you'd record them as 1: AA & BB, 2: AB & CA, 3 BA & CC. Then the playorder would be: AA, AB, BA, BB, CA, CB as it should be. Having that said, you would have to have sets of tapes, since if you add one more tape, you have to make another set if you would have it in order.

    1. Steven Asselman
      Steven Asselman
      26 days ago

      Or just live with it. For backgroundmusic that's probably what they did. Late '72 they would probably record Alle 13 Goed! , Alweer Alle 13 Goed! & Alle 13 Goed Deel Drie! on tape. An LP Various Artists series by.... Philips :)

  77. MatthewW
    MatthewW
    26 days ago

    2020 vision

  78. Berk Karşı
    Berk Karşı
    26 days ago

    28:57

  79. David Stevens
    David Stevens
    26 days ago

    Wow your video is a real memory jerker, It was 1974 when I purchased the N2407 which gave good service well into the 1980s I did consider the N2408 ski slope but didn't like the piano keys and possible reliability issues I also had a reel deck for long plays had them paired up with the Philips motional feedback speakers. Must give eBay a search on those. TV ads ended with the "Philips simply years ahead"

  80. Luo Zheng
    Luo Zheng
    26 days ago

    Damn that manual!

  81. Nitro The Official
    Nitro The Official
    26 days ago

    Woah

  82. Dano C.
    Dano C.
    26 days ago

    Back in the mid 1980's I had a ADC Accutrac 4000 Turntable. For the time that thing was pretty advanced. Like a lot of things, wish I still had it. Just kinda took it for granted and left it in a friends storage garage with some other stuff and he ended up passing away and I never saw it again. Great job on this deck... Thanks for sharing.

  83. Stoffe:mollan
    Stoffe:mollan
    27 days ago

    What ohms do you have on the speakers you have plugged in?

  84. Metaconta
    Metaconta
    27 days ago

    Very good. Muy Bien.

  85. Richard Dyer
    Richard Dyer
    27 days ago

    I wonder if that recording protection mechanism bar originally had a small plastic wedge on the end inside the cassette box. The wedge would have been small enough to fit into the square record protection hole in a record protected cassett and the wedge shape would allow the bar to be pushed away from the cassette when the eject mechanism moves the cassette toward the collection bin. Just and idea but maybe a non-starter, because that would probably require a recess in the cassette bay for the wedge to move into.

  86. Carlo Cerato
    Carlo Cerato
    27 days ago

    A N A L O G I Q U E

  87. Vito Matrosoff
    Vito Matrosoff
    27 days ago

    Да, это была прекрасная эпоха кибернетики, которая, к сожалению, закончилась.

  88. STUART NICHOLLS
    STUART NICHOLLS
    28 days ago

    i had oneof these it was connected to my disco unit and also had the ski slope on it was a brillint piece of kit. used it in a club

  89. Trevor Michael
    Trevor Michael
    28 days ago

    :D

  90. visualdarkness
    visualdarkness
    28 days ago

    A clever simple design idea that is extremly advanced to actually pull of.

  91. HughS
    HughS
    28 days ago

    Astonishing machine. Amused to see how similar the transport buttons are to those on my Philips 4307 reel to reel which dates from the late '60's. Generic Philips design I guess . . .

  92. Azael Mtz
    Azael Mtz
    28 days ago

    Gotta apreciate the thumbnail

  93. Dayanto
    Dayanto
    28 days ago

    This is like one big rube goldberg machine.

  94. Edd VCR
    Edd VCR
    28 days ago

    What an odd, fantastical device. Thank you for all your videos, I really enjoy watching them! I love how you explain each device in depth including their history, as well as showing how you fix them.

  95. Gerko Stuff
    Gerko Stuff
    28 days ago

    Wow. Brilliant job! 👍 I remember a friend back in the 80's who worked in an audio shop and they also repaired equipment mostly high brands. They hated repairing Philips devices though because they were so complicated inside. I now understand why. 😂

  96. GrimmSpector
    GrimmSpector
    29 days ago

    That's actually pretty cool, I like it. Thanks for repairing this and showing us!

  97. Paul Taylor
    Paul Taylor
    29 days ago

    So can it actually record 9 hours of sound using the changer? That would be quite a lot more useful.

  98. Dirk Simonsz
    Dirk Simonsz
    29 days ago

    This machine brings back great memories. They were made in Austria and in most ski resorts bars in the seventies they had one, all decked out with german Schlager hit cassettes and popular Eurodisco compilations, as well as Nana Mouskouri, Demis Roussos etc. So, while getting high on schnapps, I would sit and watch the cassettes slide down the ramp.

  99. passtheparcel2007
    passtheparcel2007
    29 days ago

    Wow! Well done for perseverance an gentle patience. I was there in the 70s. But I don't ever remeber that feature on Philips cassette decks..

  100. Grenville Phillips
    Grenville Phillips
    29 days ago

    It looks like the ideal piece of kit for Beverly Moss to play non-stop Demis Roussos for the duration of Abigail's Party!